tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post163829601772532360..comments2023-08-26T05:55:58.586-07:00Comments on MARGARET WEST.: Welcome to Julie HayesMargaret Westhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13719830854358035869noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-25524094823987827332012-02-21T22:28:32.828-08:002012-02-21T22:28:32.828-08:00wow. Scarey stuff. makes you wonder where it wil...wow. Scarey stuff. makes you wonder where it will all end.ME!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04231061887508970387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-8536437486234891562012-02-21T15:54:23.589-08:002012-02-21T15:54:23.589-08:00I don't see them yanking VC Andrews books off ...I don't see them yanking VC Andrews books off the shelves any time soon, and they're filled with actual incest, not pseudo. Or Nabokov's Lolita. And if that's the case, then why is Bookstrand disconnecting indie authors and only allowed publishers to list with them? I'm sure it has to do with the Paypal edict.<br /><br />I doubt Bookstrand even sells children's books. <br /><br />Let's be honest - most children can navigate the Internet better than adults. If they want to go to adult sites, they can, even if you separate the books. They know how to push the button that says are you over 18, and they do.Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-18144660546091049702012-02-21T15:01:27.014-08:002012-02-21T15:01:27.014-08:00Actually, it's not so much paypal as major cre...Actually, it's not so much paypal as major credit cards whose terms of use state what they can and cannot be used for. Paypal is just the middleman and technically if they allow things their contract says they cannot do, then they are in breach of contract. According to what I've heard, whatever is inside the book is not the target; it's the title and the blurb and possibly the cover. I think the idea is that what you READ is your business, but what children could SEE from the "outside packaging" (cover, blurb) is not. Maybe it equates to having medication locked up in a cupboard or a pillbottle open on the table. Anyway, it seems to come down to the credit cards' "terms of use" contract. I seem to remember there was a problem a while back about stocking "adult" materials in the same venue as children's books. Technically, that meant all bookshops except children's book shops and all libraries except children's libraries were in breach of that law. I haven't heard about that since so I assume it was dropped or quietly forgotten. Laws or rules or contracts are often worded in such a way that they catch unintended fish in the mesh. For example, what DO we do about the no-sex-under-18 law when writing about a historical character who married (legally for the times) at fourteen? As a side note, the children's book Stepmother, by Gwendoline Courtney, could be in trouble with the Paypal net.Sally_Odgershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08556799528006564605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-28358364896219211112012-02-21T12:47:49.502-08:002012-02-21T12:47:49.502-08:00I'm looking for it, haven't located it yet...I'm looking for it, haven't located it yet. I had it, I know. I read about it on other author's blogs. There's a petition, as LM Brown pointed out.Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-12148841426562627942012-02-21T10:46:36.568-08:002012-02-21T10:46:36.568-08:00Julie. Do you have a link to PayPal's 'gui...Julie. Do you have a link to PayPal's 'guidelines' on this? (or whatever they might be calling this drivel)<br />How did you find out about it?<br />Is there any organised opposition out there?widdershinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205462833259334647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-45182839098849284912012-02-21T10:40:05.033-08:002012-02-21T10:40:05.033-08:00I had already heard a lot about this and have sign...I had already heard a lot about this and have signed the petition about it too. <br /><br />I think what they are doing is appalling. <br /><br />To pick one of their examples and their logic...<br /><br />Rape is a criminal offence and they do not want stories showing this sold. <br /><br />Okay, I don't particularly like this content either, but I don't read it. I don't presume to tell anyone else they shouldn't read it either. <br /><br />But let's pick another offence, say murder. Now are they going to take issue with Stephen King's publisher for selling that objectionable material, or how about Thomas Harris's publisher? Of course not! I am quite sure whoever their powerhouse publishers are, they would tell them where to go if they tried it. <br /><br />If they have the sort of power to dictate what people can and cannot buy then they have way too much power and need to be put back in their place.L.M. Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03892539777683232436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-26850018148607283072012-02-21T10:23:11.761-08:002012-02-21T10:23:11.761-08:00I'm sure you can buy a lot of stuff through p...I'm sure you can buy a lot of stuff through paypal and just label is services or goods. Hypocrisy in action!Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-64791573400160899612012-02-21T10:22:14.067-08:002012-02-21T10:22:14.067-08:00I suspect they are after the so-called perverts of...I suspect they are after the so-called perverts of the world, to be honest.Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-69011127802543227582012-02-21T09:16:14.199-08:002012-02-21T09:16:14.199-08:00Fascinating article and comments. I'm new to ...Fascinating article and comments. I'm new to paypal and the writing biz as a whole. Not that it matters, because like you said they are a way to pay, but can you buy kinky sex stuff via Pay Pal? Or weapons via Pay Pal? Or pornography? I believe Google and now Pay Pal are all part of a conspiracy of how the government keeps tabs on us. Not to plug my other book, but The Last Degree mentions all of this stuff. Dina Rae, authorblcsdinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00644299476649103854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-60231242537605509622012-02-21T08:38:59.063-08:002012-02-21T08:38:59.063-08:00I do not want to 'out' myself, but my payp...I do not want to 'out' myself, but my paypal account was started because I am a Tarot Reader and I believe the info on the account still reflects that. <br /><br />Tarot Reading is a very risky business. I started my business just as Miss Cleo was being exposed. <br /><br />It seems a bit strange that I haven't been contacted about this. <br /><br />Now-a-days, I am using paypal to receive royalties and make local and online purchases.<br /><br />Now that I've 'outed' myself, I'm going quietly back to work.<br /><br />SallySally Christiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01554510815767718428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-12716650636941141742012-02-21T07:55:20.075-08:002012-02-21T07:55:20.075-08:00That does seem to be an alternative, but it's ...That does seem to be an alternative, but it's not in the author's hands, that would be up to the publishers and book sites.Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-59677441661359837882012-02-21T07:53:48.438-08:002012-02-21T07:53:48.438-08:00Perhaps if the publishers fought back and told the...Perhaps if the publishers fought back and told them they won't accept their terms? Seek alternates?Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-88551970692710042802012-02-21T06:51:16.173-08:002012-02-21T06:51:16.173-08:00Author, Cherri Miller is having problems logging i...Author, Cherri Miller is having problems logging into blogger- the story of my life lol - anyway i am posting this link on her behalf. Authors do have options. http://www.merchantinc.comMargaret Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719830854358035869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-32681176274904774142012-02-21T06:44:21.950-08:002012-02-21T06:44:21.950-08:00I'm with you and julie cassie. people have the...I'm with you and julie cassie. people have the right to choose what they want to read.Margaret Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13719830854358035869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1523624555504156077.post-45320014340628458522012-02-21T04:10:33.761-08:002012-02-21T04:10:33.761-08:00Bravo!! I quite agree. Paypal has no right to cens...Bravo!! I quite agree. Paypal has no right to censor what anyone buys. That's not their job. Paypal's highhanded attitude reminds of book burning and panning movies. Since I've got a mind of my own, I will choose what I read, write and buy. Sad state of affairs. Paypal seems quite unAmerican. Hope someone comes up with a solution something like Paypal but concerns itself to the money aspect and lets the buying to us.Cassie Exlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07032720662086516954noreply@blogger.com